i was thinking about some stupid non-sensical answers i have heard over the years.
"we all know the blue whale is the biggest fish"
"we were on the ministry and met a coloured couple.
I heard a brother (now an elder) who answered up while studying the ‘Greatest Man’ book, talking about the resurrection and he said that in the resurrection we will come back to earth as we departed, and went on to say that John the Baptist would come back with a severed head.
The group burst out laughing and he quickly retracted what he had just said. The bloke was a complete arse…….
recently i talked to some jw, even so called strong ones in the truth:.
i noticed, they do not believe everything from the wts, for example:.
one older sister, a close relative of mine, she has been pioneering for years, babtizes over 40 years ago, mentioned, that sometimes she wonders about certain teaching, but she can not say anything, because somebody would say, she speaks against jehovah himself..further she said, she remmebers 1975, and that the society tried to blame the brothers, but was clearly responsible itself... i was quit shocked to hear that from her, and i added some careful comments in the same direction.... other brothers do not agree with certain teachings, like resurrected ones will not marry, or animals will not eat each other etc.... maybe those are "minor" issues, but if you doubt one teaching of gods channel, doesnt that mean, you doubt the whole thing ?.
I think that there is a lot in there that have these leanings in their questionings. I still bump into a lot of JW’s and I love to see how far I can push them and get them to reveal what they truly believe inside. At first you will bump into their indoctrination, but if you take them past that and prise open their mind by making them feel (which actually isn’t all that hard when you know how) then it is amazing to the depth of questioning that most JW’s have, and the volume of papering over they do with JW clichés.
So many have a depth of questioning that never surfaces because of JW policy, but what amazes me is how much is revealed when you do open up people who are in, and it is so easy to see the ulterior motive as to why people are in the ‘truth’ at those moments.
i just do.. if a thread title has misspelled words or someone's rant has misspelled words, all i see are those ragged, misplaced letters all akimbo.. it's like watching early morning tv and i can't notice anything said by the fat woman who doesn't know how to dress for her figure.. i just think silently ... "you're fat and you dress poorly.
how can you stand it?".
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People who are obsessed about spelling remind me of JW ass wholes, having to cross every eye and dot every tee….
Get over it..!!
Correct spelling is all man made bullshit anywhey and is always changing, so what is ‘correct’ at the end of the day…??
in the local paper there are 2 different towns that are dealing with possible police misconduct.
one situation involves thousands of dollars worth of pot stolen from the police locker where the drugs were supposed to be safe.
now the feds and state are involved in finding out who was responsible for the theft.
Nah..!! Sting always looked like a dodgy bastard to me….
no doorbells either...local community group i joined recently had it planned....very social coffee beforehand....good excerise...and made four friends......plus the road looks a lot better......... kinda pathetic this is my first ever real volunteer work that counts............but it is a start.........oompa.
When you said you picked up ‘roadside trash’ I envisaged a hooker.…..A very different way to clean up the streets…
assuming you could go back in time, and knowing what you know now, is there anything the 2009 you could say to that person you were while you were one of jehovah's witnesses, that would have gotten you out earlier, or easier?.
in other words, have you learned anything now, or while you were exiting, that would have made a difference to you while you were a witness?
and would it make any difference?
The information that took me out of the organisation was the information that would have taken me out back when I was a JW. Foolishly I put so many of my questions I had back then on the ‘back burner’, as was recommended by my study conductor, she saying that the answers to my questions would be answered in time by Jehovah. But the questions I had when I started my road back to the organisation were the very same ones I reopened when I could see the problems in the organisation. When I looked there were too many questions simmering away on the ‘back burner’ and it was time to not wait anymore on Jehovah, but to take the initiative myself and see if I could find the truth behind everything.
I was as ready to see it back then as I was when I did finally look into things. I just wished that I would have known someone who could answer the difficult questions for me as I know the answers now…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8waekj2szx0.
mustang sally (she's keyboard).
You’ve got to feel for the guy who plays the guitar solo.
Imagine being on the road with all those women in the band and synchronised PMS……….AHHHHHHHHH…..!!!!!!
joshua wasn't done butchering people, "not enough time in the day" to chop up "god's enemies" so he says: "yeah hi jehovah, just wondering if you could make the sun stand still for me so i can continue the slaughter...thanks.
" no problem!
god stops the earths rotation {which should cause it to drift from the sun or crash into the moon} and holds it for joshua.
So this "phenomena" was observed elsewhere?
The claim that Velikovsky makes is that in many other ancient peoples myths and folk law the same incident was written about, but from their perspective, so some writings have claims of unusually long nights, some writings claim that dusk lasted for a prolonged time. He also links his claim into the 'fact' that the actual calendar changed around this time as well, being that many nations counted 360 days for a year, Velikovsky claiming that at that time the rotation of the earth changed dramatically also. He also links into the equation that in the biblical account more people died from the hail than from the sword and attributes this to the cause of the sun standing still.
His books are a very interesting read, although quite a lot of his claims have been proved false, although some of the claim he made proved true, but were very controversial to the science of his day. Fascinating to look into though…..
joshua wasn't done butchering people, "not enough time in the day" to chop up "god's enemies" so he says: "yeah hi jehovah, just wondering if you could make the sun stand still for me so i can continue the slaughter...thanks.
" no problem!
god stops the earths rotation {which should cause it to drift from the sun or crash into the moon} and holds it for joshua.
The controversial writer Immanuel Velikovsky wrote a few books that went into a ‘plausible’ explanation of the biblical myth that the earth actually stood still.
Worth a read and he puts forward very interesting evidence from other peoples myths that it was not just that the sun stood still, but also that it stood still on the horizon in certain parts of the earth, as well as other writings that claim that there was an unusually long night, all apparently around the time of biblical Joshua.
Controversial but a very interesting read for anyone who is interested…..
six years 'jw free', my wife is still in, although she's now nowhere neary as zealous as i was when in.
for this i'm grateful.. please take a moment to review my current situation as far as my wife's involvement is concerned with our 4, adult male children:.
my wife regularly contacts my dfd son, invites him and his wife to visit us, along with their 4 year old son, and thinks absolutely nothing of it!
Way too brutal. You are going to have to be a lot more cunning than that. It’s a gradual process and the key is to get her to leave on (what she thinks is) her own steam. Chances she will resent you for dropping her in it and it could work very much against you. If you pull that one you will get no second chances…..
